What is Saul to Us?

1 Samuel 8:1-31:13 October 4, 2026 Pastor Chris Oswald
Thesis Trials, not spiritual experiences or good works, reveal the tested genuineness of our faith by showing whether we love God for himself or merely use him to get what we want.
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The story of Saul teaches us that genuine faith is revealed not by spiritual experiences or good works, but by how we respond when God's will costs us what we want — a truth that runs from the Old Testament king through the apostle Paul, and into our own trials today.

Monday 1 Peter 1:6-7

Peter writes that trials test the genuineness of our faith the way fire tests gold, proving its worth. Saul's life was marked by spiritual experiences and outward obedience, yet his faith crumbled the moment God required something he did not want to give. Our trials work the same way: they strip away every other reason to follow Jesus and leave only one question — do we love him for himself, or only for what he gives us?

Tuesday Matthew 7:21-23

Jesus warns that many will come to him saying 'Lord, Lord,' having even prophesied and cast out demons in his name, yet he will tell them he never knew them. Saul experienced the Spirit's power — he prophesied among the prophets, he was anointed king, he led Israel to victory — yet none of this saved him. A life full of religious activity and even supernatural signs proves nothing about the state of our hearts before God.

Wednesday Hebrews 6:4-6

The writer of Hebrews describes people who have been enlightened, tasted the heavenly gift, and shared in the Holy Spirit, yet fell away — impossibly difficult to renew to repentance. Saul had all these experiences. He had tasted God's power. He had done good works as judge and general. But his faith was always transactional: he loved God's provision, not God himself. When the provision stopped — when God refused his way — Saul's faith revealed itself as hollow.

Thursday Acts 9

The apostle Paul began as Saul of Tarsus, a man zealous for God's law, doing what he believed was God's work by persecuting the church — just as Old Testament Saul kept the forms of religious obedience while his heart remained transactional. But on the Damascus Road, Christ met him with grace that transformed him completely. If God can turn a religious hypocrite like Saul into a genuine lover of Jesus, there is hope for any of us whose faith is still tangled up with what we want rather than who God is.

Friday 1 Timothy 1:12-17

Paul testifies that he was the foremost of sinners — a religious man who persecuted the church — yet received mercy because his encounter with Christ was real and transforming. Your trials are not punishment but God's invitation to discover whether your faith is genuine. And if you find yourself still clinging to religious forms while your heart pursues other things, Paul's testimony reminds you that grace can break through even the hardest religious exterior and make you new.

Small-group discussion

6 questions for your group this week

  1. Saul began his reign with dramatic spiritual experiences—the Spirit of God came upon him, he prophesied with the prophets, God gave him a new heart. Yet the sermon argues these experiences did not indicate genuine faith. What does this tell us about how we often evaluate whether someone's faith is real, either in others or in ourselves?
    1 Samuel 10:6-11; Hebrews 6:4-6
    → Can you think of a time when you assumed someone's faith was genuine based on their spiritual experiences or religious activity, only to discover later that something was missing underneath?
  2. The sermon says that Saul's request for a king 'like all the other nations' represents a fundamentally transactional view of God—using religion to get what he wants rather than trusting God's actual provision. Where do you see this same transactionalism in contemporary Christian life?
    1 Samuel 8
  3. Read 1 Samuel 15 and 1 Samuel 13:11-14 together. In both moments, Saul disobeyed direct commands from God because he believed his own reasoning was better. What was Saul actually revealing about what he loved most—God himself, or something else?
    1 Samuel 13:11-14; 1 Samuel 15
    → How do you respond when obedience to God costs you something you want? What does your response reveal about what you actually love?
  4. The sermon argues that trials—moments when the easy path is disobedience but you choose to follow God anyway—are the test that reveals whether faith is genuine. Why would trials be a more reliable indicator of real faith than spiritual experiences or good works?
    1 Peter 1:6-7
  5. Look at 1 Peter 1:6-7. Peter says trials are valuable because they 'prove that your faith is genuine.' What specific trial in your own life has forced you to choose between trusting God and getting what you wanted? What did that trial teach you about yourself?
    1 Peter 1:6-7
    → If you're not currently in a trial, what would it look like for you to actively trust God in an area where he's not giving you what you're asking for?
  6. The sermon ends with Saul of Tarsus—a religious hypocrite who became Paul the apostle through grace. What does Paul's transformation tell us about the possibility of genuine conversion, even for those whose faith has been deeply transactional or false?
    Acts 9; 1 Timothy 1:12-17
    → Is there someone in your life whose faith seems hollow or self-serving? What would it mean to pray for them with the same hope that transformed Saul into Paul?
Sunday-evening family table

What Do We Love God For?

For the parent

This prompt invites your family to think about the difference between loving God himself versus loving what God gives us. The sermon showed how Saul used God to get what he wanted rather than loving God for who he is—and trials are what reveal the difference. Listen for where your kids naturally land, and be ready to share a time when you had to obey God even when it cost you something.

Saul kept asking God for things and obeying God when it got him what he wanted—but when God asked him to do something hard that didn't make sense, he refused. Think about a time this week when you had to do the right thing even though it was hard or you didn't get what you wanted. Did you do it? What made you decide?
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Couples · three questions over coffee

Testing What We Love

  1. When have you faced a trial where obedience cost you something you wanted — and what did that trial reveal about whether you love God himself or mainly his gifts?
  2. Where in our marriage do we slip into using God transactionally — treating him as a means to get what we want rather than treasuring him for who he is — and how can we repent of that together?
  3. What specific hardship is God currently using to test the genuineness of our faith, and how can we pray for one another to stay faithful in it, even if God doesn't give us the outcome we're hoping for?
Memory verse this week

1 Peter 1:6-7

In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, so that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Why this verse: This passage crystallizes the sermon's central claim: trials are the God-appointed test that distinguishes genuine faith from religious pragmatism. Saul's life demonstrates what happens when faith is transactional; 1 Peter 1:6-7 shows that believers who endure trials prove the authenticity of their love for God himself, not merely his gifts.

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What's in this sermon

The shape of the argument

30 units across exposition, application, illustration, theological claim, and conclusion. The pastor's argument is built from these moving parts.

Pastoral correction · unit #22
"The pastor makes the application concrete by naming specific trials his congregation faces: surprise pregnancies, infertility, sickness, exhaustion in the roles of husband/father/churchman. Each example functions to help listeners identify their own trials. He then reiterates the theological payoff: these trials prove you love the Giver, not just the gifts. The application ends with explicit assurance: if you freaked out but eventually obeyed, you have evidence of genuine faith."
Doctrinal loci· 11 surfaced
Soteriology · 13 Hamartiology · 6 Providence / Sovereignty · 6 Ecclesiology · 5 Sanctification · 5 Pneumatology · 4 Bibliology · 2 Christology · 2 Theology Proper · 2 Doxology / Worship · 1 Ethics / Moral Theology · 1
Bible citations· 30
1 Samuel 8 | Matthew 7:21-23 | Hebrews 6:4-6 | Matthew 13:24-30 | 1 Samuel 9:1-3 | 1 Samuel 9:5-8 | 1 Samuel 9:15-16 | 1 Samuel 10:6 | 1 Samuel 10:9-11 | 1 Samuel 11 | 1 Samuel 13:11-14 | 1 Samuel 15 | 1 Samuel 18 | 1 Samuel 28 | 1 Samuel 31 | 1 Peter 1:6-7 | Acts 9 | 1 Timothy 1:12-17
Illustrations· 1
  1. personal story · unit #20 — The pastor illustrates the sermon's thesis with a personal anecdote from his restaurant days. The story of the papier-mâché car repair that collapses in the rain functions as a perfect analogy for false faith exposed by trials. The illustration is vivid, self-deprecating, and makes the abstract theological point concrete and memorable.
Theological claims· 8
  1. The names Samuel and Saul form a divine joke: Samuel represents God's faithful provision when we trust him; Saul represents God giving us what we demand even when it harms us. unit #2
  2. A king like all the other nations means a king who treats God transactionally — using religion for personal benefit rather than covenant relationship. unit #3
  3. Saul's story forces us to examine whether our faith is genuine — both in our own lives and in those around us in the church. unit #5
  4. Spiritual experiences — even tasting the Holy Spirit and being enlightened — cannot distinguish genuine faith from false faith, because God can grant such experiences to the non-elect who will ultimately fall away. unit #16
  5. Neither seeking God for blessings, nor good works, nor spiritual experiences can serve as reliable tests of genuine faith. unit #17
  6. Trials — moments when obedience is costly and God's ways make no sense — are the God-given test that reveals whether faith is genuine or transactional. unit #19
  7. By the time of Isaiah, Israel has become institutionally what Saul was individually — religious in form but empty of genuine devotion, like a haunted house. unit #24
  8. Saul of Tarsus was a New Testament recapitulation of Old Testament Saul, but God's grace transformed him into Paul — offering hope that religious hypocrites can be genuinely saved. unit #25
Quotations· 2
"God indeed favors none but the elect alone with the Spirit of regeneration. And by this, they are distinguished from the reprobate. But I cannot admit that all this is any reason why He should not grant the reprobate also some taste of His grace, why He should not irradiate their minds with some sparks of His light, and why He should not give them some perception of His goodness. And in some sort engrave his word on their hearts. There is therefore some knowledge even in the reprobate, which afterwards vanishes away, either because it did not strike roots sufficiently deep, or because it withers being choked up." — John Calvin (unit #16)
"the Holy Ghost is present with many as unto powerful operations, with whom he is not present as to gracious inhabitation" — John Owen (unit #17)
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0 · The pastor frames the sermon with the governing question: why did God preserve the story of Saul in Scripture? This sets up the entire homiletical arc — not merely recounting Saul's life, but interpreting its theological purpose for the congregation

Today we're in 1 Samuel. We'll be covering chapters 8 through 31 this morning as we do one quick sermon on the person of Saul. And the question we're asking, and I think this is sometimes a helpful thing to ask, is like, why did God do this? Why did he write in the ink of reality the story of Saul? For us, and then why did he present the story of Saul to us, preserving it in his sacred word? What is Saul about?

1 · The pastor briefly recaps the previous sermon's argument — that 1 Samuel 8 shows Israel solving problems through panic rather than faith

Well, if you were here last week, you know that there was a lot made of this idea of problem solving and how in chapter 8 of 1 Samuel, the problems are not solved well. They're solved in panic. They forget who God is. They forget who they are supposed to be before God, and they insist to Samuel that he give us a king like all the other nations.

2 · The pastor unpacks the theological irony embedded in the names Samuel and Saul

And I mentioned that there's a kind of a joke in 1 Samuel 8 because Samuel's name means God is heard, and the whole story of Samuel is that God will provide for us when we ask him in his way, and his way is best. Well, the joke continues because Samuel goes to the Lord and says, what should I do? They're demanding a king. The Lord says, you know, they're not just rejecting you, they're fundamentally rejecting me. Warn them what it means to have a king like all the other nations. And so Samuel does that, and they say, no, we want a king. And so the king that arrives is named Saul, and his name means you asked for it. That's, that's really what his name means. You, you asked for it.

3 · The pastor defines what 'a king like all the other nations' means theologically: not just political structure, but transactional religiosity

And that is really kind of the big pivot, the big joke of 1 Samuel is you had a God who will hear you, um, and who will answer your needs if you ask humbly and give you another Samuel. But if you insist, you asked for it, here is Saul, and he is indeed a king like all the other nations. I would say that the thing that is most true when you hear king like all the other nations is that every other king treated their gods, their local deities, Baal, Asherah, Dagon, whatever, in a transactional way. Every other king in that region, in the world at the time, was a religious king, but not a relationship with their god kind of king. No one sings, you know, back in this period of time, no one's singing, I got the joy, joy, joy of Baal, Down in my heart, where? Down in my heart. Like, like these are just transactional gods. You need grain, here's the god for grain. You need fertility, here's the god for fertility, so forth. And that's how every other king would interact with the gods in their world. And when they get Saul, he is just like that, but he is like that with Yahweh, but he is a, he is a transactional, A religious pragmatist. He is in it for what it benefits him.

4 · The pastor shifts from Old Testament exposition to New Testament theology, preparing the congregation for the interpretive payoff

But initially we can't tell that as we— that's, I just gave, you know, I just spoiled the plot. Like that's, that's the way the story ends. We know that by the end, but initially it's not clear at all that he isn't just honestly just like us, person following God and so on and so forth. And that is an interesting theme to touch on. Because I think, as you know, that's a dominant theme by the time we get to the New Testament, where Jesus talks about saying, not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven. And I will declare to them, I never knew you, depart from me. Or we're going to touch on a passage that I get questions about, you know, a few times every year from people. And that's Hebrews chapter 6, verses 4 through 6, that talks about, tasting of the Spirit and then falling away and so forth. We're going to talk about that, but there are these categories that appear in the New Testament of someone who appeared to be a Christian, but turns out not to have been a Christian. And in fact, Jesus predicts this. He says that he tells a couple of parables about this. And one of them is, is that a farmer goes and he sows really good wheat into his field, but then his enemy comes at night and also sows weeds. Into the field. And Jesus is sort of preparing us for the reality that insofar as we experience the local church in particular, we'll just be in a kind of mixed multitude environment, not intentionally, but it'll just be that way where some who appear to be with the Lord are not. And it will turn out that they are not.

5 · The pastor explicitly states one of the sermon's key theological purposes: Saul functions as a biblical case study forcing self-examination about the genuineness of faith

And that's where Saul fits in, in at least one way we can use him and understand him. Is Saul's one of those people who started off looking like, well, maybe they are. And then by the end it's like, well, absolutely, actually there's really, there's really no doubt that Saul was not a follower of the Lord. But again, that's a helpful thing for us to think about because that's a reality that we would have to think about with our own life and our own faith. Are we really actually saved? Are we really actually his? And then that's also a reality we need to be prepared for as we just do life with other people in a local church. And there are some bigger, more institutional implications we'll get to that have to do with the book of Isaiah toward the end of the sermon.

Where this fits

Recent preaching context

The three sermons immediately preceding this one in the preaching schedule.

Aug 30, 2026
God calls His people — especially the young — to a life of intentional cheerfulness rooted in grace, rejecting both hedonistic indulgence and scrupulous asceticism in favor of humble, self-forgetful joy before the face of a loving Creator.
Ecclesiastes 11:7-12:8
Sep 13, 2026
God joyfully receives repentant sinners, and He calls self-righteous sinners to join the celebration.
Luke 15:11-32
Sep 27, 2026
When God's people solve problems without remembering His faithfulness, fearing Him appropriately, and acting from their identity as His chosen people, they create destructive consequences that can last for generations, but Jesus Christ remains the ultimate solution to all our failed problem-solving.
1 Samuel 8:1-22
October 4 · This sermon
What is Saul to Us?
Trials, not spiritual experiences or good works, reveal the tested genuineness of our faith by showing whether we love God for himself or merely use him to get what we want.
1 Samuel 8:1-31:13
Earlier in the corpus · August 26, 2018
You preached this same passage — 10 1 Samuel 8 citations in that earlier sermon. Worth re-reading before the next time this text comes around.
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