When You Just Don't Understand

Daniel 8 November 17, 2024 Pastor Ricky Alcantar
Thesis When we face life circumstances we cannot understand, God calls us to lament honestly, trust resolutely, and work faithfully.
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pastoraldidacticprophetic
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grammatical-historicalredemptive-historicalapplicatory
What's in this sermon

The shape of the argument

43 units across exposition, application, illustration, theological claim, and conclusion. The pastor's argument is built from these moving parts.

Pastoral correction · unit #24
"Warns against two pastoral errors: (1) lamenting without moving to trust, and (2) rushing to trust without engaging in genuine lament. Both movements are necessary and biblical."
Doctrinal loci· 13 surfaced
Pastoral Theology · 12 Eschatology · 8 Bibliology · 7 Theology Proper · 6 Ecclesiology · 5 Providence / Sovereignty · 5 Sanctification · 3 Soteriology · 3 Covenant Theology · 2 Doxology / Worship · 2 Christology · 1 Ethics / Moral Theology · 1 Pneumatology · 1
Bible citations· 35
Daniel 8:1-27 | 2 Timothy 3:16 | Daniel 8:3-8 | Daniel 8:20-21 | Daniel 8:9-12 | Daniel 8:20-25 | 2 Samuel 7:12-16 | Deuteronomy 28 | Genesis 12:1-3 | Daniel 8:13 | Daniel 8:27 | Psalm 13:1-2 | Psalm 88:1-3 | Psalm 13 | Daniel 6:23 | Daniel 7 | Daniel 3 | Daniel 1 | Daniel 6 | Joshua 1 | Psalm 16 | 1 Kings 19 | Acts 14:19-20 | Genesis 12:3 | Matthew 26:39 | Matthew 26:42
Illustrations· 4
  1. personal story · unit #14 — Personal testimony of the preacher's failure to lament during COVID (multiple losses, health crises, pastoral burdens), his resistance to vulnerability, and a biblical counselor's challenge to pour out honest grief to God using the Psalms as model.
  2. personal story · unit #21 — Extended analogy: just as the preacher's 8-year-old son could not fully understand the medical necessity of a kidney biopsy but trusted his father, so believers cannot fully understand God's purposes but are called to trust Him across the gap of comprehension.
  3. cultural reference · unit #33 — Humorous cultural reference from an action movie used to illustrate the absurd but emotionally resonant idea of pushing through adversity to 'go to work,' which the preacher has adopted as a personal motto with his wife.
  4. personal story · unit #35 — Personal testimony of Todd Peterson's loving but bold challenge during COVID to stop being tentative and fully engage in kingdom work, which became a turning point for the preacher.
Theological claims· 7
  1. The vision is a prophetic, poetic retelling of Middle Eastern geopolitical history over the next 100-200 years. unit #6
  2. Every biblical promise and prophecy that has reached its fulfillment date has come true, providing Christians with thousands of years of evidence to trust Scripture despite cultural attacks. unit #8
  3. Even while depicting the blasphemous rage of the nations, Daniel 8 provides theological grounds for trusting in the Lord's sovereignty. unit #18
  4. Lament is appropriate but should never shake our trust in God, because His character as Creator and sovereign over history warrants trust even where our understanding reaches its limit. unit #20
  5. God reveals enough in Daniel (judgment, Messiah, kingdom) to prove His trustworthiness, but He leaves gaps where His people must trust Him without full understanding. unit #22
  6. The Christian life requires weeping over losses, trusting God, and then embracing the life God has actually given and returning to work. unit #30
  7. Jesus perfectly embodied the lament-trust-work pattern in Gethsemane, and because He succeeded where we fail, His blood covers our failures and empowers us to follow His example. unit #38
Quotations· 2
"the honest expression of our sorrows to God" — One author I read (unit #12)
"Weep deeply over the life that you hoped would be. Grieve the losses, feel the pain, then wash your face, trust God and embrace the life that he's given to you." — John Piper (unit #30)
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0 · Establishes the sermon's controlling question—what do we do when we don't understand—and identifies the target audience: those who remain confused even after engaging Scripture, prayer, and church

I believe there is a particular group, I believe, on the Lord's heart today, asking the question, what do I do in life when I just don't understand? Maybe that's where you are today. Even after reading the Bible, even after coming to church, even after praying, you find yourself perplexed, you find yourself confused, you find yourself, frankly, bewildered by the life circumstances around you. And you're going, I just don't understand. What am I supposed to do when I just don't understand? That is the question, I think that should be hanging over this text as we read it.

1 · Orients the listener to the structure of Daniel 8—vision followed by interpretation—and reiterates the sermon's guiding question to keep focus on application rather than mere exegesis

Now, we've read sections of the Book of Daniel often throughout this, but today we're gonna read the entirety of chapter eight before walking through the text together. And there's a particular reason for that. In verses 1 through 14, we get a vision, an apocalyptic vision. This vision concerns two particular kingdoms of the earth. Now, last week we saw four kingdoms. This passage, in a sense, is zooming in on the middle two kingdoms. We see a vision about them, and then we get the interpretation in the second half. And so it's hard to. You have to have both halves before you begin to draw conclusions from the text. So as we read, I want you to ask the question, how would this help in life when I just don't understand?

2 · Full reading of Daniel 8—a prophetic vision of empires (ram = Medo-Persia, goat = Greece, little horn = Antiochus Epiphanes) and their persecution of God's people, followed by Gabriel's interpretation and Daniel's response of being appalled and sick but returning to work

Daniel, chapter 8, verse 1. This is God's Word. In the third year of the reign of King Belshazzar, a vision appeared to me, Daniel, after that, which appeared to me at first. And I saw in the vision. And when I saw, I was in Susa, the citadel, which is in the province of Elam. And I saw in the vision, and I was at the Ulay canal. I raised my eyes and saw, and behold, a ram standing on the bank of the canal. It had two horns, and both horns were high, but one was higher than the other, and the higher one came up last. I saw the ram charging westward, northward, southward. No beast could stand before him, and there was no one who could rescue from his power. He did as he pleased and became great. As I was considering. Behold, a male goat came from the west, across the face of the whole earth without touching the ground. And the goat had a conspicuous horn between his eyes. He came to the ram with the two horns which I had seen standing on the bank of the canal. And he ran at him in his powerful wrath. I saw him come close to the ram, and I was enraged against and he was enraged against him and struck the ram and broke his two horns. And the ram had no power to stand before him. But he cast him down to the ground and trampled on him. And there was no one who could rescue the ram from his power. Then the goat became exceedingly great. But when he was strong, the great horn was broken. And instead of it there came up four conspicuous horns toward the four winds of heaven. Out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the glorious land. It grew great even to the host of heaven. And some of the hosts and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled them. It became great, even as great as the prince of the host. And the regular burnt offering was taken away from him. And the place of his sanctuary was overthrown. And a host will be given over it to it, together with the regular burnt offering, because of transgression. And it will throw truth to the ground, and it will act and prosper. Then I heard a holy one speaking. And another holy one said to the one who spoke, for how long is the vision concerning the regular burnt offering, the transgression that makes desolate and the giving over of the sanctuary and hosts to be trampled underfoot? And he said to me, for 2,300 evenings and mornings then the sanctuary shall be restored to its rightful state. When I, Daniel, had seen the vision, I sought to understand it. And behold, there stood before me one having the appearance of a man. And I heard a man's voice between the banks of the ulai. And it called, Gabriel, make this man understand the vision. So he came near where I stood. And when he came, I was frightened and fell on my face. But he said to me, understand, O Son of man, that the vision is for the time of the end. And when he had spoken to me, I fell into a deep sleep with my face to the ground. But he touched me and made me stand up. And he said, behold, I will make known to you what shall be at the latter end of the indignation, for it refers to the appointed time of the end. As for the ram that you saw with the two horns, these are the kings of Media and Persia. And the goat is the king of Greece. And the great horn between his eyes is the first king. As for the horn that was broken, in place of which four others arose, four kingdoms shall arise from his nation. But not with his power. And at the latter end of their kingdom, when the transgressors have reached their limit, a king of bold face, one who understands riddles, shall arise. His power shall be great, but not by his own power. And he shall cause fearful destruction and shall succeed in all in what he does and destroy mighty men and the people who are the saints. By his cunning he shall make deceit prosper under his hand. And in his own mind he shall become great without warning. He shall destroy many, and he shall even rise up against the prince of princes. And he shall be broken, but by no human hand. The vision of the evenings and the mornings, that has been told is true. But seal it up, seal up the vision, for it refers to many days from now. And I, Daniel, was overcome and lay sick for some days. And then I rose and went about the king's business. But I was appalled by the vision and did not understand it. This is God's word.

3 · Invokes God's illumination on the text and the congregation's lives, confessing Scripture's divine inspiration and profitability even in perplexing sections

And, Lord, I pray that you'd give us insight to this today. Lord, every part we confess of your word is breathed out by God and profitable even sections that at first may seem perplexing, as perplexing perhaps, as the life around us. And I pray, Lord, you give us insight to both this vision and our lives through your word. Amen.

4 · Identifies Daniel's dual terror: the strangeness of the vision itself and, more importantly, the horrifying interpretation that God's people will endure severe persecution

What do we do when we just don't understand? That's where Daniel is today. Now, Daniel is confronted with two terrifying things. The first is this weird, terrifying vision. I mean, this is a weird vision. This is the kind of dream you have that wakes you up in the middle of the night with a cold sweat, and your wife's like, what's wrong? And you're like, the ram is going to kill me. You know, and you're. You're like, wait a second. Let me just, you know, let me. Okay, I'm in my house. I'm okay that it's a scary vision. But Daniel is even more terrified and disturbed not by the vision, but rather by the interpretation of the vision, the meaning of the vision. This. This message that God's people are going to go through a severe period of unspeakable persecution is a. Is going to happen. And Daniel is forced to confront that, the reality of that oncoming persecution.

5 · Previews the sermon's three-part structure (lament, trust, work) and sets expectations that the exposition will focus on the big picture rather than every exegetical detail

So this is a lot going on in this passage. I'm going to tell you up front. We're not going to get to every single small detail. There may be really small details that you're like, I wonder what that specific thing means. We may not get to it because I want to keep us focused on the big picture of the vision, which is why the vision is in our Bibles. And so I'm going to boil the text down to three words, okay? The vision in the response and the vision in three words. First, lament. Second, trust. Third work. That's the message of this and the call of this passage.

Where this fits

Recent preaching context

The three sermons immediately preceding this one in the preaching schedule.

Oct 20, 2024
Heaven rules, not you, and when you finally see that truth and rejoice in it, you discover it is not crushing but liberating because you were never meant to bear the weight of being the center of the universe.
Daniel 4
Oct 27, 2024
God watches all we do, weighs all we are, and will pay us what we deserve—yet in Christ, the bill for sin has been paid in full, freeing us to trust God's justice and rest in his sovereignty.
Daniel 5
Nov 10, 2024
The present and future are both more dangerous and more hopeful than we imagine—dangerous because monstrous empires rage against God, but hopeful because the Ancient of Days judges perfectly, the Son of Man reigns eternally, and the saints will inherit the kingdom forever.
Daniel 7
November 17 · This sermon
When You Just Don't Understand
When we face life circumstances we cannot understand, God calls us to lament honestly, trust resolutely, and work faithfully.
Daniel 8
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Small-group discussion

6 questions for your group this week

  1. Daniel describes his vision as something that 'appalled' him and left him unable to understand it (Daniel 8:27). When have you faced a circumstance in your life where you genuinely could not understand what God was doing or why He allowed it to happen?
    Daniel 8:27
    → What made that moment particularly difficult—was it the loss itself, or the confusion about God's purposes?
  2. According to the sermon, Daniel's vision depicts geopolitical events over the next 100-200 years. Why would God give Daniel a prophecy about things he himself could not fully understand in his own lifetime?
    Daniel 8:1-27
    → What does this teach us about the purpose of God's Word—is it always meant to make us comfortable, or does it sometimes call us to trust beyond our understanding?
  3. The sermon identifies three parts of Daniel's response: lament, trust, and work. Of these three, which one comes most naturally to you when you face confusion, and which one do you tend to resist?
    → What would it look like to practice the one you tend to resist this week?
  4. Psalm 13 and Psalm 88 both contain honest laments—even questions directed at God. Why is lament a faithful response rather than a failure of faith?
    Psalm 13:1-2, Psalm 88:1-3
    → Have you ever brought a lament—a 'how long, O Lord?'—to God in prayer? What happened?
  5. The sermon argues that God reveals enough in Scripture to prove His trustworthiness (judgment is coming, the Messiah has come, His kingdom will endure), but leaves gaps where we must trust Him without full understanding. What 'gap'—an unanswered question about God's character or purposes—are you being called to trust through right now?
    → What would it mean to trust God in that gap specifically this week, rather than waiting for full understanding?
  6. Jesus in Gethsemane (Matthew 26:39) embodied the lament-trust-work pattern: He grieved deeply, submitted to the Father's will, and then went to the cross. How does knowing that Christ walked this path before us change how we approach our own confusion and grief?
    Matthew 26:39
    → Where do you need Christ's example most right now—permission to lament? Courage to trust? Grace to return to your work?
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Daily readings · Monday–Friday

5-day reading plan

This week we walk through Daniel's response to what he could not understand: honest lament, resolute trust in God's sovereignty, and faithful return to work—the same pattern Jesus embodied in Gethsemane.

Monday 2 Timothy 3:16

Paul reminds us that all Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for our instruction. As we face what we cannot understand, we stand on a foundation: God's Word has proven trustworthy across millennia. The patterns Daniel saw come to pass. The promises given to Abraham came to pass. The messianic prophecies came to pass. We can trust the God who speaks, even when we cannot see the whole picture.

Tuesday Psalm 13:1-2

The psalmist cries out honestly: 'How long, O Lord? Will you forget me forever?' This is not doubt pretending to be faith. This is faith honest enough to weep. Daniel wept when the vision overwhelmed him. Lament does not disqualify us from trusting God—it is the prayer of those who trust God enough to tell Him the truth about their pain. Our sorrow is welcome in His presence.

Wednesday Daniel 6:23

When Daniel emerges from the lions' den alive, he testifies: 'My God sent his angel and shut the mouths of the lions.' The nations raged. The king's edict stood. But God's hand was at work beneath what appeared to be chaos. This is the comfort of Daniel 8: the ram and the goat, the kingdoms and their fury—all of it moves under the rule of the God who sits on the throne. Our confusion does not mean His sovereignty has faltered.

Thursday Matthew 26:39

In Gethsemane, Jesus prayed the prayer of deep sorrow: 'My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me.' His lament was real. His agony was genuine. Yet He moved from 'not my will' to 'your will be done'—trust resolute enough to walk toward the cross. We do not lament alone. We lament as those who follow the One who lamented perfectly and whose resurrection proves that trust in the Father's will is never misplaced.

Friday Joshua 1

After Moses dies, Joshua faces an impossible task: lead Israel into Promised Land warfare with no prophet of Moses' stature. Yet God tells him three times: 'Be strong and courageous.' This is not because Joshua understands everything ahead. This is because Joshua must trust God and return to the work. Like Daniel, who rose from his lament and continued serving. Like us: we grieve what we cannot understand, we trust the God who is trustworthy, and then we get up and do the kingdom work He has given us to do.

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Pray together this week

A Prayer for Trust in the Unknown

Father, we come before you in this moment acknowledging that you are sovereign over all history—past, present, and future. You alone see the end from the beginning, and your word stands forever (2 Timothy 3:16). We confess that when we face circumstances we cannot understand, when the vision before us seems terrifying or incomprehensible, our hearts grow fearful and our trust in you wavers. Like Daniel, we sometimes feel bewildered by what we see unfolding in the world and in our own lives. We want to understand everything before we move forward, and when understanding does not come, we grow weary.

But Father, you have given us Daniel's witness—thousands of years of fulfilled prophecy that proves your faithfulness. Every promise you have made that reached its fulfillment date has come true. You have revealed to us your judgment, your Messiah, and your kingdom, enough to prove your trustworthiness. And so we ask: teach us to lament honestly before you, to bring our sorrows and our confusion into your presence without shame. Help us to weep over what grieves us, as Jesus wept in Gethsemane, even as we trust that you are working out your purposes in ways we cannot yet see.

Give us grace this week to do what Daniel did after his vision—to rise up and return to the work you have given us to do. When understanding reaches its limit, help us to trust you without it. When the path ahead is unclear, help us to walk faithfully anyway, knowing that your character as Creator and sovereign Lord warrants our confidence even in the gaps. And because Jesus perfectly embodied lament, trust, and faithful work, and because his blood covers our failures in all three, empower us to follow his example. We commit ourselves to you afresh—to honest prayer, resolute trust, and faithful labor in your kingdom.

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Sunday-evening family table

When You Don't Understand

For the parent

Daniel was confused and even sick from a vision he couldn't fully make sense of—but he didn't stop trusting God or working. This prompt invites your family to name something they're confused about and talk through how to keep going anyway. Listen for honest feelings, not quick answers.

Daniel saw something scary and didn't understand it—so he got honest with God about his fear, he trusted that God was still in control even though he couldn't see how, and then he got up and kept doing his job. Tell us about a time you didn't understand something that was happening—maybe something sad or confusing. What helped you keep going, even when you didn't have all the answers?
works for ages 8+; younger kids can listen and share if they have an experience, but the prompt requires some capacity to sit with confusion
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Couples · three questions over coffee

Trusting When You Cannot See

  1. When have you faced a circumstance recently that you still don't understand, even after praying about it? What did you hear in this sermon that spoke to that moment?
  2. As a couple, where do you find yourselves tempted to demand understanding from God before you'll trust Him—and how might the lament-trust-work pattern reshape that?
  3. What is one specific area of your marriage or life where God is calling you to weep honestly, trust His sovereignty anyway, and return to faithfulness? How can you pray for each other in that?
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Memory verse this week

Daniel 8:27

And I, Daniel, was overcome and lay sick for some days. Then I rose and went about the king's business, but I was appalled by the vision and did not understand it.

Why this verse: This verse captures the sermon's three-part framework: honest lament (overcome, sick), resolute trust (rose and went about the king's business), and faithful work (did not understand it, yet continued). It shows that not understanding God's purposes is not a barrier to obedience—it is the condition under which mature faith operates.

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